a waffle 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) Haha, I didn't know where to find that. Thanks for that, Ill reupload them to the post with the time on all three. Reach Reach 3 Halo txt2.pdf Madden Madden Flyerb.pdf Starcraft II Starcrafttext.pdf Edited October 28, 2010 by a waffle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterP 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Price check from the print shop should be free, if you need more than the 2XX free copies we get you're much better off printing your own. You'll save money. This is why we typically had 2 fliers, a color and a black/white. We routinely got free copies from random departments and black/white printing is always cheaper on your own printer than paying the school. You can still get free copies from department printers but it's tricky and not really worth the hassle. If the print shop in any way even pretends to want money from us go talk to Keith. If you do need more fliers and the print shop wants more than a couple pennies per copy you're better off driving to walmart and buying a black cartridge and some cheap paper and doing it yourself. Talk to Tallgeese in advance and he can let you record expenses and the club can pay you back. ---caution: off topic rant--- When they outsourced the print system it should have reduced the cost to print, at least that's what the school thought using their imaginary form of business economics. I don't think they realize that outsourcing a local service after you've bought all the equipment, and then losing all the equipment in the agreement, is a giant waste of money. Whoever had that bright idea should have their breeding rights revoked for extremely stupidity as should whoever in management stupid enough to believe that losing 100+ very expensive printers could, in any way, even remotely save money. Even if you saved $.05 per copy, if you lost a hundred $800 printers in the deal you have to print 1.6 million copies before you start saving money. Not only that but the company you outsourced to is a subsidiary of Ricoh, which has the highest per-page cost in the laser print industry and some of the highest energy usage rates. Read as: it's not cheaper to the contractor so it won't be cheaper to you. Congratulations, you saved a penny by paying 2. Most of what IT does behind the scenes is either stupid or textbook stealing, like how they had a 400% profit margin on Office03 and WinXP and a 100% profit margin on Vista, Office07, and Windows7. I mean I know screwing students is fun and all but charging students 5x more for something than you bought it for? Whoever set that up is the one who should've been calling the shots on this print thing. When I inquired about the pricing markups a few years back I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. When I then pulled out a copy of the pricing schedule straight from the Microsoft agreement I promptly had my access to the staff network share revoked. I mean yeah I shouldn't have had it to begin with but if you don't like people finding and shining light on your dirty secrets you probably shouldn't be doing shady crap to start with and if you suck at hiding stuff you definately don't have any business doing that sort of thing. Giving an anal retentive student with a ton of free time access to the IT division network share is just asking for trouble. It's also a violation of the WCU network security policy but hey who's counting *edited* ups at this point. There's just so many, like a certain IT department agreeing to universal student wages then hiring some at a higher rate than others already working there. Or ignoring missing money. Or paying students from one department using the wage allotments of another department. Or putting an IT repair shop with tons of virus infected machines on the same subnet as an entire IT department with no firewalls. ---end of rant--- Maybe ask Keith if the print costs really did go down with the new agreement (not a chance in hell) and if they did see if we can get more copies. The answer's going to be no but it can't hurt to ask anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nickname 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 ---caution: off topic rant--- When they outsourced the print system it should have reduced the cost to print, at least that's what the school thought using their imaginary form of business economics. I don't think they realize that outsourcing a local service after you've bought all the equipment, and then losing all the equipment in the agreement, is a giant waste of money. Whoever had that bright idea should have their breeding rights revoked for extremely stupidity as should whoever in management stupid enough to believe that losing 100+ very expensive printers could, in any way, even remotely save money. Even if you saved $.05 per copy, if you lost a hundred $800 printers in the deal you have to print 1.6 million copies before you start saving money. Not only that but the company you outsourced to is a subsidiary of Ricoh, which has the highest per-page cost in the laser print industry and some of the highest energy usage rates. Read as: it's not cheaper to the contractor so it won't be cheaper to you. Congratulations, you saved a penny by paying 2. Most of what IT does behind the scenes is either stupid or textbook stealing, like how they had a 400% profit margin on Office03 and WinXP and a 100% profit margin on Vista, Office07, and Windows7. I mean I know screwing students is fun and all but charging students 5x more for something than you bought it for? Whoever set that up is the one who should've been calling the shots on this print thing. When I inquired about the pricing markups a few years back I was told I didn't know what I was talking about. When I then pulled out a copy of the pricing schedule straight from the Microsoft agreement I promptly had my access to the staff network share revoked. I mean yeah I shouldn't have had it to begin with but if you don't like people finding and shining light on your dirty secrets you probably shouldn't be doing shady crap to start with and if you suck at hiding stuff you definately don't have any business doing that sort of thing. Giving an anal retentive student with a ton of free time access to the IT division network share is just asking for trouble. It's also a violation of the WCU network security policy but hey who's counting *edited* ups at this point. There's just so many, like a certain IT department agreeing to universal student wages then hiring some at a higher rate than others already working there. Or ignoring missing money. Or paying students from one department using the wage allotments of another department. Or putting an IT repair shop with tons of virus infected machines on the same subnet as an entire IT department with no firewalls. ---end of rant--- l.o.l. I told you it was a trap to go back and work for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterP 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Yeah I realized that about 3 weeks after I moved back up there. No one was really interested in the screw ups or dirty laundry of anyone else but they loved to care about the occasional one I made. I mean my manager didn't care at all that $120,000 was missing from our budget for the last few years or that another department had broke a contractual agreement with us but when it's reported that I p2p'd in my apartment THAT'S suddenly a huge deal or something. At least there was evidence that the money was missing, what I do at my apartment in my own free time can't be proven by anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shannannonnan 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 this is my statement. i am only going on what i think i remember, it could be true or false. so what i say may not be fact.... all clubs and associations were allowed to file and ask for a $10 card for printing. i think it was $10... ANYWAYS i dont think we applied for it. i want to say that we had a good reason for not applying, or that it was too late to apply for it when we found out. but again, i may be wrong. so IF we have to pay for copies (which im sure we do) its because we didn't get teh $10 card for copies. but again... i may be wrong. im not positive on that. honestly i wasn't really told what funds we could apply for, and out of those which ones we did apply for. so that is sort of my fault for not asking more when the forms were being filled in. BUT regardless, last time we made copies, i think we got 100 or more copies made, it only cost us a few dollars. so it wont be too bad of a cost regardless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Yeah we have been paying for our own fliers for the last year or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterP 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Keith gave us free copies for years. As we've said for months now, we aren't a typical campus club, we have the backing of Residential Living and can get pretty much anything we need to be successful. Go talk to Keith and ask for free fliers. 99% chance you'll get them. If you don't go through Keith then yeah, you will have to pay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 I know we used to get them for free thats how it was when i was marketing in 07 but after my mandatory 1 semester break i got back and we were all of a sudden paying for them. Ill have daniel talk to keith about flyers and the posters. Ive also got information on mass school emails and putting a mini-flier in mailboxes today so going to check what the cost on the later would be. In addition i want to get table tents made, talk to the western carolinian about ad space, see if lmp will put up a slide during the previews of movies, talk to TV62 about a slide thing there, and posibly some sort of commercial which i think we have a youtube video somewhere but dont know the quality of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterP 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 We got almost all of our Reslife sponsoring back when Brenton took office so I'd definately talk to Keith about it. If he's willing to buy pizza for the event I can't imagine 200 color copies being outside his price range. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 0 Posted October 28, 2010 Report Share Posted October 28, 2010 Ill work on a list and prices. See what he would be willing to help us pay for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a waffle 0 Posted October 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 When do you think we could have everything printed by? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tallgeese 0 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I will try to get up with keith tomorrow. Half the time I try to get hi he is out of his office in a meeting or out and about. Once I talk to him I will let you know the route we will take in printing. Should be soon though, thanks waffle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterP 0 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I will try to get up with keith tomorrow. Half the time I try to get hi he is out of his office in a meeting or out and about. You can use the club email account to check his calendar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a waffle 0 Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Added what the tournaments would be into the posters. Thought it would be easier for them that way they know what to expect somewhat without going to our website. Edited Posters. Reach Reach 3 Halo txt2.pdf Madden Madden Flyerb.pdf Starcraft Starcrafttext.pdf This is the last thing I wanted to add, I won't edit them anymore unless anyone sees something than can improve. Last time I promise! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shannannonnan 0 Posted November 1, 2010 Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Added what the tournaments would be into the posters. Thought it would be easier for them that way they know what to expect somewhat without going to our website. i am not sure if the rules have been posted yet. but they have to be ran by the PC and Console VP's first. So 2v2 and 1v1 stuff may not be correct. as of this past thursday i dont THINK felix has approved any rules for starcraft, and im not sure about other games. i know last lan that kazka was asking casey for help with xbox so if those rules are coming from casey they probably are right. but like i said i dont think felix has any rules set/approved yet. Other than that, they still look fine and have correct info. i cant think of anything else that needs to be added. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a waffle 0 Posted November 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2010 Added what the tournaments would be into the posters. Thought it would be easier for them that way they know what to expect somewhat without going to our website. i am not sure if the rules have been posted yet. but they have to be ran by the PC and Console VP's first. So 2v2 and 1v1 stuff may not be correct. as of this past thursday i dont THINK felix has approved any rules for starcraft, and im not sure about other games. i know last lan that kazka was asking casey for help with xbox so if those rules are coming from casey they probably are right. but like i said i dont think felix has any rules set/approved yet. Other than that, they still look fine and have correct info. i cant think of anything else that needs to be added. I just looked at the last LAN to see how it was set up for the PC's, wonder how long it will take them to post the rules for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shannannonnan 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 It could be a while before they are posted. It seems like all that is going on with the forums wanting to be changed, and other stuff, that the rules are the last on peoples minds right now. But hopefully the rules will be posted soon seems how the LAN is like a month away now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MasterP 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 The forums can be changed at any time. The rules need doing now. I think some peoples' priorities are a little skewed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Faulkner 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 its not that hard to copy whats already done. Think if you had to create it. ICK ICK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shannannonnan 0 Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I agree, the rules need to be written up, posted and be done with now. I don't think it would go over well though with me (the treasurer) telling the VPs what to do and when to do it. And I would say it's fine to just copy and paste the rules, but I thought maybe they needed to be updated, altered or whatever else. So now I remind daniel the rules haven't been posted or decided upon yet and tell him to get on VPs to get it done ASAP, and that the rules and the LAN are more important right now than the forums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a waffle 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 (edited) Hopefully the rules will be up before Friday because I am going to a Reach Tournament in Asheville and plan to take some of my flyers with me to post. I think its safe to copy and paste last LAN's rules and the only ones I do not know for sure is TF2 and Starcraft II (Pretty sure it'll be 1v1 though). I have talked to Casey about Reach and Madden so hopefully Kaz-Ka(?) or the Console Leader will take Casey's advice on the xbox rules. Edited November 3, 2010 by a waffle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Faulkner 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 for rizzle ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AMerrill 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Just found out SCC is hosting some sort of video gaming event at their library on 11/12/10. This was their communication: "You are invited to the library's 3rd video-gaming event. Library provides the monitors, projectors, screens, and students have signed up to bring consoles and the following games: DDR, Rock Band, Halo Reach, Wii games, Modern Warfare 2, Mario and board and card games are welcome, too! Free pizza and beverages! This event is for 16 yrs and older, so please bring ID. Under 16 yrs must be accompanied by a Parent! Everyone will register at the Information Desk. Questions? Call 828-339-4268." Here is their flyer: gaming.BMP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lemm 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Just found out SCC is hosting some sort of video gaming event at their library on 11/12/10. This was their communication: "You are invited to the library's 3rd video-gaming event. Library provides the monitors, projectors, screens, and students have signed up to bring consoles and the following games: DDR, Rock Band, Halo Reach, Wii games, Modern Warfare 2, Mario and board and card games are welcome, too! Free pizza and beverages! This event is for 16 yrs and older, so please bring ID. Under 16 yrs must be accompanied by a Parent! Everyone will register at the Information Desk. Questions? Call 828-339-4268." Here is their flyer: gaming.BMP You think they would let us advertise there? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fascist Flakes (Jagr) 0 Posted November 3, 2010 Report Share Posted November 3, 2010 Their flier is a bit.... weird. It says gaming but doesn't say anything else on it. I like how it doesn't say LAN or anything on it since people don't know what a LAN is most of the time but they don't say anything about what games are offered, which could be good and bad. What Lemm said is a great idea, contact them to see if we could advertise there and we can advertise for them (front page, etc). Also, we could trade contact lists. They give us their list of who they e-mailed and vice-versa, could be a real winner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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